In this episode I had the pleasure of talking to DC Shindler, Professor of Metaphysics and Anthropology at the John Paul II Pontifical Institute at The Catholic University of America in Washington DC. You can read more about Professor Shindler here https://www.johnpaulii.edu/academics/faculty/d-c-schindler/. In the episode we discuss: 1) Liberalism in the American context, it's causes, problems and some potential ways forward 2) Whether quantum physics undermines the Aristotelian/Aquinas understanding of causality 3) If atheists can avoid at least committing to a kind of Neo Platonism It was a great conversation. I hope you enjoy it.